"If at first you don't secede - try, try again..."

(I got that from Bill Maher)

Abraham Lincoln 09 Nov 2004

I find the county by county map of the election results to be far more interesting. The philosophical divide is indeed regional, but not as much North vs. South as it is rural vs. urban.

Gomez 09 Nov 2004

I'm going with the angry rant guy. My feeling is that if your iffy on the validity of the Evolution theory, then I really don't need you in my country. Form your own country and see how long you last.

nora 09 Nov 2004

Even Gomez's map is not as good as one I saw last week (which of course I can't find now), which showed gradations of red blue and shaces in between to reflect the ratio of liberal to conservative. Although the usual red & blue focal points are just where you expect them, MOST OF THE COUNTRY WAS PURPLE! Don't kid yourself that the the far-right is more powerful than it is.

jpeg 09 Nov 2004

wow, gomez - I had wanted to see that very map after seeing an Ohio county map, expecting Cali to look like that. it's weird, but you are only seeing the winner, not the margin by which they win. I'd like to think someone other than Mary Cheney voted for Kerry in Wyoming.

I am not crying foul here, but I am really getting frustrated thinking about the election results and the way the vote was counted. The throw out 3% of the vote for spoilage - which, at 120 Million voters, is comprable to throwing out the Chicago votes.

If a party was blocking votes for the other party in select county, the map would be pretty inaccurate.

pazen 09 Nov 2004

Let's not forget another aspect of the bumpkin vote. Their hawkish election of a reactionary will be paid for in the next attack on an URBAN area. Who gives a fuck if you bomb 100 square miles of rural turf? Their is no benefit to terrorists (no terror) if a bomb goes off in Hooterville. It'snice to be a care-free, paranoid bumpkin. You get to prioritize what ever screwy moral issue you like and vote accordingly.

jpeg 10 Nov 2004

Josh Marshall http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_11_07.php#003958

has an interesting post on Tuesday, money quote:

"The oddity of this Red State moralism argument emerges most clearly when you look at statistics for virtually every form of quantifiable social dysfunction. Divorce, out-of-wedlock birth, poverty, murder, incidence of preventable disease --- go down the list and you’ll see that they are all highest in the reddest states and lowest in the bluest. "

Of course this is probably old news by now.

Bill 10 Nov 2004